Leaving Thailand

[fredythehound]

I have noticed falangs from different parts of thailand,packing thier bags and moving on to cambodia and vietnam,i have no experience of cambodia ,only read from various forums how its like thailand 20 years ago,where the people and goverment are not so anti falang,i,ve noticed a change in thais attitude towards falangs ,and the crime going up all the time against us,and goverment seem to making new laws against falangs more and more every year,to a point i feel we are not wanted,and bar girls not as nice as they used to be,and cost of living getting high.
I personly think its time for me to move on,could anyone give me fors and against ,living in cambodia or vietnam,compared to thailand

[Lee Rhodes]

Frankly dude I wouldn't go to Vietnam... A communist country so you cannot co-habitate with a lady. If you do you run the possibility of being raided by the police while you sleep. I was in Cambodia for a short while and I hated it. Just my personal take on it my man, up to you.

For me and my beautiful Thai wife, Thailand is the place for me.

Chok Dee Khrap!

[Flatlander]

,i,ve noticed a change in thais attitude towards falangs

well, how would that come, just one of the many examples:

http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=h ... _AaQ38H3Cw

and not only in Pattaya that is.
In my own experience, if i give them respect i get respect in return. Just treat people the way you want to be treated.
Nothing personal to you, but to this misbehaving farangs.

[aznyron]

fredy The only way is for you to experience it your self. I am also looking in to that move. my reason is the exchange rate you can get & spend USD out of ATM in Phom Pehn Cambodia which eliminates the exchange rate and Cambodia is cheaper living. with that said is is also my opinion that the immigration rules are more relaxed it cost you 200.00 USD for a year Visa expensive yes but no B/S comes with it as for Vietnam
the exchange rate is very good for USD over 17000 dongs to 1 USD and they want you there to spend your money and invest in the country and you can own your business & your home but I would think very carefully
before I purchased a home any were in Indo China you have no protection from the Government.
there is a draw back remember your T/W does not speak the language so now it the two of you trying to struggle through the language barrier just some thing to think about and one more thing both countries are communist if that bothers you

[aznyron]

http://www.relaxindochina.com/currency.htm this web sit will cover Vietnam Cambodia & lao
you can also find out the currency exchange rates on this URL

[LoveDaBlues]

I have to agree with Flatlander. With few exceptions I've been treated well by Thai people in general.

government against us? I'm here 4 years with no problems. (Retirement visa; soon to be marriage visa)

crime going up against us? 4 years in Udon; never a problem.

In fact, the few times (twice) I've been hassled by strangers when in a bar was from a Falang. Both had what I would consider a British accent. (Having said that, I have some quality English friends; so nothing against them in general).

Between my falang & thai friends I have a pretty laid-back (sometimes boring) life. No plans to leave; in fact I'll start a house before the end of this year.



ps - A word of caution......the grass is NOT always greener on the other side.

pss - Best of luck in finding nicer bar girls in other countries.

[dougness]

I like Cambodia,because it is less developed than Thailand by maybe fifty years.I have never stayed for more than five days,but never had a bad experiance.The main drawback i s hospital care is primitive,you'd want to hightail it back to Thailand.As long as you stay out of politics I guess you'd be ok.The other drawback is,if you started a family,im not sure if they have a accredited international school there.It would be interesting to know about crime from long term retirees there.Both Vietnam and Cambodia are more corrupt than Thailand,if you can believe it.Hun Sen has been in power in Cambodia since he more or less took it in 1996.Most people in Cambodia are in the daily survival mode,so the women are a lot less materialistic in my opinion.

[Aardvark]

Try it before you buy it I reckon. No better way to judge a place than having your feet on the ground ??

[Astana]

Thailand is no more violent for the British than other places in the world, try your country for your own listing. So I wouldn't look for the shortcoming of Udon nightlife in terms of violence.

The latest British Behavior Abroad Report, released today, showed 812,000 British visitors to Thailand in the year to March, 41,000 British residents, 54 arrests involving drugs from a total of 202, 288 deaths, three rapes, 843 consular cases and 774 passports lost.

A total of 198 Britons were hospitalised. A previous report made the point that as a proportion of visitors and residents, Thailand showed the highest rates of hospitalisations.

As a proportion of the number of visitors, Britons were most likely to be arrested for drug offences in Thailand, United Arab Emirates, Cyprus and Pakistan.

There are currently 22 Britons facing capital charges worldwide.

http://www.fco.gov.uk/resources/en/pres ... itsbehavab
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/606206 ... urist.html

Clearly, there are no figures relating to the numbers of foreigners attacked in Thailand by Thai's or other nationals and the report provides the simplest of notation.

[vlad]

Got to disagree with you there Astana the major crime's are in the big city's but in thailand the major crime's are getting worse in the resorts where tourists go like pattyya phuket ect was only a few monthes ago the gangsters were having a shoot out in broad daylight at patong what resulted in tourists running for cover on the beach rd. Then a fes weeks later 3-4 men drinking round a table were shot dead again in phukhet this is a holiday isle Astana not down town LA. Dont think there will ever be gangsters running round Blackpool promenade shooting at each other.

[panick]

Dont think there will ever be gangsters running round Blackpool promenade shooting at each other.

Not in the low season anyway!

[fredythehound]

http://www.relaxindochina.com/currency.htm this web sit will cover Vietnam Cambodia & lao
you can also find out the currency exchange rates on this URL

thx for that

[panick]

Yo Freddy the Dawg .... You confused me there for a minute as I thought BM had been downgraded to a Saamlaw! ขโมย

[cali4995]

went to siem reap cambodia once, (that's where angkor wat temple is) was like they say,
travelling back in time to what thailand must have been like 20 years ago. and the people
were sweet, you honestly felt like they didn't want anything from you but friendship? but do
you want to leave all those modern conveniences behind you've gotten used to? all that
development thailand has benefitted from make anything available almost like back home.

[fredythehound]

went to siem reap cambodia once, (that's where angkor wat temple is) was like they say,
travelling back in time to what thailand must have been like 20 years ago. and the people
were sweet, you honestly felt like they didn't want anything from you but friendship? but do
you want to leave all those modern conveniences behind you've gotten used to? all that
development thailand has benefitted from make anything available almost like back home.

nice people would tempt me more than nice buildings,as long as hotel ,bars,and has a shoping center that are pleasant enough,and travel ok;i be more concerned about crime and anti falang laws